[5E] Question: Unarmored Defense + Mage Armor5th Edition (self.DnD), submitted 6 years ago * by MidSoloWarlock. What is the AC of an unarmored Barbarian with Mage Armor? Not getting into online pissing match. This subreddit may use the trademarks and other intellectual property of Wizards of the Coast LLC, which is permitted under Wizards' Fan Site Policy. I know that magical protection isn't exactly armor. You may be able to convince your GM to homebrew the rule in to allow your WIS modifier to add to your armor, but since the spell says AC = 13+DEX ... you may have a hard time with that. Actually, the unarmored defense can not work with the mage armor but you might have been asked yourself that “why don’t they work together? Most apps include their own filtering systems. If you believe a rule has been broken, please report the offending post/comment. You actually don't get 20 or 23. Would the effects combine into 13 + DEX + CON? The protective power of Defense with improved heavy mage in 5e If your Dex is 14, your base AC is 15. If for some reason he loses 4 CON, bringing his Unarmored AC down to 14, Mage Armor would automatically take over and set his AC to 15. If you have multiple features that give you different ways to calculate your AC, you choose which one to use. "A monster that doesn't wear armor …" does, indeed, refer to a monster that doesn't wear armor. +3AC seems to be the obvious ruling to me. I can't see where I claimed that Base is 10. Does the AC bonus from Bracers of Defense stack with the AC calculation from the mage armor spell? Correct, but just to expand, both would be active without stacking. If you feel sure of something, and a number of people you can count on your hand are by your understanding mistaken, then surely you'd want to bring to attention the correct answer. So you would lose your unarmored status. Since Unarmored Defense is higher, it is the one "active". Unarmored Defense is not a spell, so it appears this description does not apply to this situation. © 2018 Wizards. LEAVE? Bracers of Defence give +2 AC. Your AC would be the highest one of either. Combining Magical Effects - The effects of different spells add together while the durations of those spells overlap. They simply are not additive. [–]LeukuDM 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children). On my phone now, but this has already been addressed many times, just look harder if you don't take my word for it. xkcd.com | xkcd sub | Problems/Bugs? and join one of thousands of communities. Check the comments for download link! This includes illegally distributed official material (TSR, WotC), reproductions, dubious PDFs, and websites or applications which use or distribute non-SRD rules content. Unarmored Defense gives you a different formula: 10 + Dex + Wis. You can use … Each effect is a calculation of AC, and effects don't stack, merely overlap, strongest effect taking precedence. Does Unarmored Defense work with a spell like mage armor? Or would the Barbarian keep his 10 + DEX + CON, ignoring Mage Armor? the mage armor specifies “it works on a creature those who is not wearing the armor.”. What is the difference between "base AC" and "Armor Class"? Heavy improved Mage Armor 5e: You will touch the creature you love, not wearing armor. PHB page 205 talks about the combination of MAGICAL effects. If you cast Mage Armor on a monk, does it stack with their Unarmored Defense class feature? You can use it to create a 3D map/scene and export a .png of your work. Do they choose which ‘base’ AC they take, or do they stack somehow? 205 explains that overlapping effects don't stack, found again and again through the multilateral section. Page 14 dictates that Spells that change AC math and Class features that change AC math do not stack, [–]Gypsy_CowboyDM 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child), ya, i was on my phone and just hitting reply to people as they popped up :) no worries, [–]Gypsy_CowboyDM -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago* (5 children). The filters work on reddit mobile. — AudibleShrug (@AudibleShrug) December 19, 2017 If the game gives you different ways to set your AC, you choose which one to use. Mage armor is an "effect", a magical one, but Unarmored Defense is not an "effect", it's a class ability. PHB page 164 states that you cant gain Unarmored Defense from two classes, which has nothing to do with this question. On pg 164 I see a reference to Unarmored Defense which doesn't stack with itself if gained from two different classes. Obviously these stack as Mage Armor is a spell for sorcerers, but what does Mage Armor grant to a draconic sorcerer? PHB Pg. Due to RAW on Page 14 as found by /u/Snapdrackon, I change my interpretation to "Mage Armor and Unarmored Defense Do Not Stack", [–]Gypsy_CowboyDM -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (3 children). That’s just confusing. Could you provide the text? Do not attempt to call anyone out. Mage armour provides a formula: 13+Dex. "DDoouubbllee ssppeeaakk!!" Dexterity modifier". [–]Snapdrackon 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (8 children), "If you have multiple features that give you different ways to calculate your AC, you choose which one to use.". Mage armor doesn't stack with regular armor doesn't stack with barbarian Unarmored Defense doesn't stack with monk Unarmored Defense. 164 and 205... [–]Snapdrackon 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children). Mage armor changes your AC calculation to 13+DEX instead of 10+DEX. Is it possible to cast 2x Final Payment while sacrificing just one creature? Bonuses and penalties are then applied to that AC. [–]LeukuDM 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (2 children). ", [–]MidSoloWarlock[S] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (4 children). Instead, the most potent effect - such as the highest bonus - from those castings applies while their durations overlap. In D&D 5e, you get to choose a single armor class equation, and can only use that equation. If you cast mage armour on a monk wearing a Ring of Protection and Bracers of Defense, and the monk had Dex 18 and Wis 15, then the monk must choose to use either the mage armour (13+Dex) OR the Unarmoured Defence … Pg 205 specifically states that overlapping Magical effects do not stack, not that any overlapping effects do not stack. Unarmored Defense tacks Con Mod on to that Base AC. More specifically, it sets your AC to 13+dex, not adding in any way much the same way unarmored defense sets your AC to 10 +dex+wiz. After casting Mage Armor, would my AC be 23 (Base AC of 16 + Unarmored Defense modifiers at +7)? My initial reaction was no. Unarmored Defense increases nothing. Things that provide a formula for AC do not stack. Unarmored Defense At 1st level, while you are wearing no armor and are not wielding a shield , your AC equals 10 + Dexterity modifier + your Wisdom modifier . Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. So wearing leather armor AND studded leather should give me 13+dex right /s. Donning and Removing Armor Source Core Rulebook pg. PHB page 205 talks about the combination of MAGICAL effects. Multiple fireplaces in an apartment building? You can't add your Wis to Mage armor or use a base 13 for Unarmored Defense because that's not what either ability does. While Unarmored says "their AC becomes" but your Base armor is normally 8+DexMod, so would it become 13+DexMod+ContMod with Unarmored Defense? They do not stack. Also, you only ever have one AC equation. Mage Armor base AC is "13+dex" not 13. On pg 205 I see a reference to magic not stacking with itself. Mage Armor gives you a specific formula for your AC: 13 + Dex. I made this program to help you bring your worlds to life. Natural armor is different because it changes your base armor calculation. For example, Dungeons & Dragons® is a trademark of Wizards of the Coast. [–]Gypsy_CowboyDM -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (8 children). If you’re not wearing armor, use your proficiency in unarmored defense. Reasons for using monsters as bioweapons Should I put my name first or last in the team members list? Also p.272 is identical to unarmored+shield, coincidence or…? Draconic Resilience. It doesn't stack like a shield or bracers of defense would. Donning and removing armor are … Shield gives +2 to AC, so it stack with anything other than itself, plate armor give you base AC of 18, so it’s not compatible with things like Mage Armor, which give you base AC of 13+Dex, or barbarian unarmored defence that give you AC of 10+Con+Dex. Mage armor specifies that it works on a creature who isn’t wearing armor.” It’s true that the target of mage armor must be unarmored, but mage armor gives you a new way to calculate your AC (13 + your Dexterity modifier) and is therefore incompatible with Unarmored Defense or any other feature that provides an AC calculation. Both the title and the content of posts must directly relate to Dungeons & Dragons. However new rules supersede older ones and by specifically stating Tortles do not get a Dex Bonus in the rules, rules as written they are eligible for any other stat based bonuses. Basically, the Mage Armor spell would supersede your unarmored defense since it basically becomes a type of armor. Mage Armor changes the Base AC to "13 + Dex Mod". In 2016, Mike Mearls states that they do not. Fax, White Dragonborn Paladin of Vengeance, [ART] Jarlaxle Baenre of Forgotten Realms, [ART] [OC] Air genasi pirate, character commission, [OC] Daruk, the Tortle Barbarian (a BotW x D&D build! also PHB pg 14 :). Things that provide a simple bonus do stack. For more information about Wizards of the Coast or any of Wizards' trademarks or other intellectual property, please visit their website at www.wizards.com. Any time you intend to post any promotion, No Looking For Group/LFG posts. This subreddit is not affiliated with, endorsed, sponsored, or specifically approved by Wizards of the Coast LLC. Base AC for any unarmored character (except Tortle) is 10, when unarmored defense was introduced in the PHB for Barbarians and Monks, there was no race that that formula did not fit. How about everyone just walks away as they were before, internet strangers with no awareness of each other, taking silence as sufficient an "apology" as we can expect internet strangers will provide. In the specific case of Dragonborn and Draconic Bloodline Sorcerers, there are rules- and lore-based explanations for why a Dragonborn does not automatically inherit the Sorcerer's Draconic Bloodline feature. [–]Gypsy_CowboyDM 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (1 child). @JeremyECrawford just to be clear, something like mage armor wouldn't stack with a monk's unarmored defense, would it? Rendered by PID 30100 on r2-app-0389d1c91105c10a2 at 2020-12-04 15:26:42.940206+00:00 running a7f2daa country code: US. 274 2.0 Getting in and out of armor is time consuming—so make sure you’re wearing it when you need it! @_FoxyBoxes_But it’s not a bonus, just another way to calculate AC? Mage armor is an "effect", a magical one, but Unarmored Defense is not an "effect", it's a class ability. Title-text: What do you want me to do? The effects of the same spell cast multiple times don't combine, however. All images must be original content, must include [OC] or [Art] in the title, and must be accompanied by a description in the comments of at least 400 characters. this has already been addressed many times. edit: lol multiclassing section The Magebarian gets either Unarmored Defense or Mage Armor. Unarmored defense does not give you an armor bonus, it gives you a formula. How does Mage Armor interact with Unarmored Defense? I'm considering multi-classing my monk to a sorcerer in order to take advantage of the mage armor spell, but my dm and i are in discussions about whether unarmored defense and mage armor can stack. My thinking is: Unarmored Defense gives you the base AC (10) plus DEX and WIS modifiers. I'm asking this because there is some contention behind the ruling of this combo, between two designers. I don't see an exclusion for this combination on either page. Mage Armor isn't concentration, and says BASE armor. How would two separate ways to calculate the same thing stack? portrays the emotion of Indignation, which I would just as much advise against as portraying a tone of superiority. Please use. How does … Ah, there we go! If, for example, you had a much higher CON bonus than DEX bonus your Unarmed Defense would be highest and would determine your AC, but if you lost enough CON so that your Mage Armor AC becomes higher than your Unarmored Defense AC, then you switch over to Mage Armor AC. Some spells and class features give you a different way to calculate AC. Barbarians aren't magical. You'll note that these abilities and spells explicitly do not say +X AC. Every character has the "Base AC" math of "10 + Dex Mod". When you aren’t wearing armor, your AC equals 13 + your Dexter ity modifier. That sounds like to me that you simply don't worry about duplicating/stacking the Unarmored Defense features available to several classes. Wrong, also stop posting on everyone's reply, and your attitude of superiority isn't welcome. Wizards of the Coast, Dungeons & Dragons, and their logos are trademarks of Wizards of the Coast LLC in the United States and other countries. Unarmored Defense doesn’t work with mage armor. Hey now; there's nothing wrong with posting on everyone's reply. You might be asking yourself, “Why don’t they work together? Mage Armor increases your base AC to 13 plus DEX modifier. Mage Armor states that "The target’s base AC becomes 13 + its You pick one. Pretty sure I know the answer to this but both Mage Armour and Draconic Resilience do the same thing raise AC to 13 and Dex mod adds on top. I don't see anything on Pages 164 and 205 that prevent the magical effect of Mage armor stacking with the class feature of a Barbarian. Why, historically, did Gödel think CH was false? Also note our. [OC], [OC] [Art] Sgt. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. this has already been addressed many times. [–]Gypsy_CowboyDM 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children), [–]Gypsy_CowboyDM -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (1 child), More links that 2 mins of google fu I was able to do now that I"m at my desk.... =), [–]xkcd_transcriber 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). Do not suggest, promote, or perform piracy. They do not stack. SO: with a DEX modifier of +3 and a WIS modifier of +4, a total of +7 thus my Unarmored Defense AC is 17. Mage armor grants a protective forcefield & your AC becomes 13+Dex modifier. It says that it's base AC is 13 plus DEX Mod. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Draconic Resilience for the Dragon Sorcerer provides scales that grant an AC of 13+Dex modifier. You cannot stack two formulas on top of each other to create a new, better formula. | Statistics | Stop Replying | Delete, [–]LeukuDM 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (4 children). your attitude of superiority isn't welcome. The following things do not stack: Unarmored Defense; Mage Armor; Draconic Sorcerer natural armor; Lizardfolk natural armor; Light Armor; Medium Armor; Heavy Armor; Those are all equations and you only ever pick the applicable equation that provides the best AC. Unarmored Defense - If you already have the Unarmored Defense feature, you can't gain it again from another class. That, by RAW as well as RAI, specifically dictates that Mage Armor and Unarmored Defense are Either/Or choices. Stats: This comic has been referenced 793 times, representing 2.5135% of referenced xkcds. They offer new ways to calculate your AC. How much RAM could one put in a typical 80386 setup? use the following search parameters to narrow your results: Please read the rules wiki page for a more detailed break-down of each rule. Would Mage Armor override Unarmored Defense to become 13 + DEX? — Jeremy Crawford (@JeremyECrawford) September 11, 2015. Per your advice, I just directly "looked harder" to confirm for myself. Barbarian Unarmored base is "10+dex+con". © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. [–]MidSoloWarlock[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children). REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 30100 on r2-app-0389d1c91105c10a2 at 2020-12-04 15:26:42.940206+00:00 running a7f2daa country code: US. Base is "10+dex", not 10. DM is concerned that the DEX bonus does not stack and that the combined AC effects total out at 20. stacking abilities - unarmored defense + mage armor. All Rights Reserved. It's currently FREE and in early access. Due to Unarmored Defense not being Magical, I would argue that Pg. It is about AC calculation, not base. By using our Services, you agree to our use of cookies.Learn More. Anything else doesn't make any … [–]MidSoloWarlock[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child). For example if he had 18 CON and 14 DEX, his AC with Unarmored Defense would be 16, and his AC with Mage Armor would be 15. I clearly state that "Every Character has the Base AC math of 10 + Dex mod". Sage Advice says "It’s true that the target of mage armor must be unarmored, but mage armor gives you a new way to calculate your AC (13 + your Dexterity modifier) and is therefore incompatible with Unarmored Defense or any @JeremyECrawford If you multi-class Barbarian/Monk do BOTH unarmored defense bonuses stack?— Daniel Vega (@chefwudan) June 5, 2016 The multiclass rules have a section on Unarmored Defense (PH… Con Mod continues to be tacked on to the new Base AC. PHB page 164 states that you cant gain Unarmored Defense from two classes, which has nothing to do with this question. If you read the PHB it specifically states they don't stack..... /facepalm. I'm telling you , you're wrong go and look harder for more proof. Mage armor increases nothing. However, … Unarmored Defense changes your AC calculation to 10+DEX+WIS/CON. BoardGameGeeks Friendly Local Game Store List, [5E] Question: Unarmored Defense + Mage Armor. As per rules of Mage armor, it treats you as having armor made of force and does not stack with other armors. Shields add to AC, armor calculates base AC, leather is "11+dex unlimited", hide is "12+dex up to 2". [–]ademonicspoonDM 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children). For a longer list, see the Related Subreddits wiki page. only way you can try to argue stack is if you treat base ac is 10 and 13, then add more mods, which, as PHB states, you don't. Magical refers to spells. [–]LeukuDM 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children). Does Mage Armor Stack With The Armor 5e? [–]LeukuDM 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children), [+]Gypsy_CowboyDM comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points 6 years ago (2 children), [–]LeukuDM 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (1 child). Don't see how this relates to Mage Armor, which is not an Unarmored Defense Class feature. EDIT: After some research, it seems that Mage Armor and Unarmored Defense would both be in effect at the same time, but would not combine effects. A barbarian gains Unarmored Defense at level 1, which states that "your Armor Class equals 10 + your Dexterity modifier + your Constitution modifier". If a character with the Unarmoured Defence class feature casts Mage Armour, what is their AC? Otherwise, yes I feel that nothing by RAW and RAI prevents Mage armor from stacking with Unarmored Defense. The target's base AC becomes 13 + its Dexterity modifier. 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